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		<title>By: Travis Stoliker</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2845</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Stoliker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,
&quot;I was told that there are no over-quota notifications. &quot;  I&#039;m sorry Keith, that information was incorrect. We do have a quota notification through our control panel system, however, it looks like that was not setup on your server.   Since you&#039;ve been with us so long, its hard to know exactly when this happened.

I think that your points are very valid and I am sorry that you had any downtime.  If you would like me to go ahead and apply your credits, please email me so that I can verify your hostname, email and password?

Thank you Keith. Have a great day.

Travis Stoliker
Liquid Web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,<br />
&#8220;I was told that there are no over-quota notifications. &#8221;  I&#8217;m sorry Keith, that information was incorrect. We do have a quota notification through our control panel system, however, it looks like that was not setup on your server.   Since you&#8217;ve been with us so long, its hard to know exactly when this happened.</p>
<p>I think that your points are very valid and I am sorry that you had any downtime.  If you would like me to go ahead and apply your credits, please email me so that I can verify your hostname, email and password?</p>
<p>Thank you Keith. Have a great day.</p>
<p>Travis Stoliker<br />
Liquid Web</p>
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		<title>By: kp</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2844</link>
		<dc:creator>kp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds about right. I am pretty sure that my control panel said 5000 MB available earlier, which is why I never really worried about the space I was using. Now it says 1500 MB, which is in line with what is advertised for my plan.

However, I still didn&#039;t receive any notification of being over quota. I just noticed after several hours that no mail was coming in. I assumed the mail server was just down for a bit and waited, but it never came back on. It took a support request on my behalf to find out what was going on. And as part of that request I was told that there are no over-quota notifications. When you go over quota, things just pretty much shut down. If that&#039;s the case, it&#039;s a major flaw in the system, in my opinion. Ideally there should be a warning when you get close to quota, and some other method of handling an overage. Either a grace period with a strong warning or some kind of &quot;overdraft protection&quot;. Even if you were to charge for the extra space used, it would be better than simply shutting things down with no notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds about right. I am pretty sure that my control panel said 5000 MB available earlier, which is why I never really worried about the space I was using. Now it says 1500 MB, which is in line with what is advertised for my plan.</p>
<p>However, I still didn&#8217;t receive any notification of being over quota. I just noticed after several hours that no mail was coming in. I assumed the mail server was just down for a bit and waited, but it never came back on. It took a support request on my behalf to find out what was going on. And as part of that request I was told that there are no over-quota notifications. When you go over quota, things just pretty much shut down. If that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;s a major flaw in the system, in my opinion. Ideally there should be a warning when you get close to quota, and some other method of handling an overage. Either a grace period with a strong warning or some kind of &#8220;overdraft protection&#8221;. Even if you were to charge for the extra space used, it would be better than simply shutting things down with no notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Stoliker</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2843</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Stoliker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Keith,
I have investigated this issue with our techs and discovered the problem.  The quota system was broken on the machine that you were using.  So when your mistakenly went over your disk space a few months back, the notification was not sent.  After a few months, a tech discovered this problem and corrected it on the box.  When this correction happened, it inadvertently cut off your server because of the disk space overage.

I am very sorry that this has happened to your site and I would be happy to provide you an SLA credit for this outage.  If you will continue to be a Liquid Web customer I will give you a 3 month credit.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention Keith and Brooks.

Travis Stoliker
Director of Marketing
Liquid Web Inc.
800-580-4985
tstoliker@liquidweb.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Keith,<br />
I have investigated this issue with our techs and discovered the problem.  The quota system was broken on the machine that you were using.  So when your mistakenly went over your disk space a few months back, the notification was not sent.  After a few months, a tech discovered this problem and corrected it on the box.  When this correction happened, it inadvertently cut off your server because of the disk space overage.</p>
<p>I am very sorry that this has happened to your site and I would be happy to provide you an SLA credit for this outage.  If you will continue to be a Liquid Web customer I will give you a 3 month credit.</p>
<p>Thank you for bringing this to my attention Keith and Brooks.</p>
<p>Travis Stoliker<br />
Director of Marketing<br />
Liquid Web Inc.<br />
800-580-4985<br />
<a href="mailto:tstoliker@liquidweb.com">tstoliker@liquidweb.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Travis Stoliker</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2842</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Stoliker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,
I am very sorry that you had problems.  We value your business and I am investigating this issue as I write this. I will be right with you.

Travis Stoliker
Director of Marketing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,<br />
I am very sorry that you had problems.  We value your business and I am investigating this issue as I write this. I will be right with you.</p>
<p>Travis Stoliker<br />
Director of Marketing</p>
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		<title>By: Tink</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>Tink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL i can&#039;t believe this is Liquid Web again!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL i can&#8217;t believe this is Liquid Web again!!</p>
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		<title>By: kp</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>kp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, despite &quot;not being in the mood&quot;, I did start looking around at other plans. Media Temple&#039;s grid server looks pretty sweet. 100 gigs storage, and they have an svn server too. All for same price I&#039;m paying. Switching over would be a pain, but it&#039;s looking nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, despite &#8220;not being in the mood&#8221;, I did start looking around at other plans. Media Temple&#8217;s grid server looks pretty sweet. 100 gigs storage, and they have an svn server too. All for same price I&#8217;m paying. Switching over would be a pain, but it&#8217;s looking nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=898#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Keith,

I&#039;m tight with the head of marketing at Liquid Web and just let him know about your issue--I imagine he&#039;ll jump on the problem quickly.

Brooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Keith,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tight with the head of marketing at Liquid Web and just let him know about your issue&#8211;I imagine he&#8217;ll jump on the problem quickly.</p>
<p>Brooks</p>
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